It seems that you can’t turn around these days without a Hollywood legend bashing Marvel Studios. After Martin Scorsese repeatedly criticized the studio’s output for not really being cinema at all, his frequent collaborator and acting icon Robert De Niro also weighed in with his thoughts on the MCU.

De Niro’s comments came as part of a discussion on the extensive de-aging effects used on his and Scorsese’s upcoming The Irishman, which expensively and not entirely convincingly depicts the Raging Bull star, Al Pacino and Joe Pesci as much younger men. Marvel Studios have been at the forefront of using this kind of CGI in their more recent output, and have managed to make it a sight better than the likes of Tron: Legacy’s terrifying depiction of a young Jeff Bridges, but De Niro doesn’t seem convinced.

“The technological stuff can only go so far. It’s not going to change other things. If it does, to such a point it becomes something that is not what a person is, what a human is. It can be another type of entertainment, like comic strip things, Marvel. The comic book character-type things, cartoony stuff.”

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